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Old 05-18-2008, 04:59 PM
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LIONS’ NEW SLOGAN? “F–K ‘EM”

Posted by Mike Florio on May 18, 2008, 5:46 p.m. EDT

Sports teams like to come up with catchy sayings, aimed at either getting the players motivated (i.e., “no pain, no gain”) or persuading the fans to buy tickets and otherwise support the effort .

In Detroit, the front office has unwittingly offered up a new slogan for the Lions, courtesy of an internal e-mail that inadvertently was sent to Kevin Furlong, who canceled his half-dozen season tickets due to the manner in which the team had handled an error regarding the location of the seats.

F–k ‘em until next year,” one Lions employee was saying to another in the e-mail that ended up being sent inadvertently to Furlong.

Even more disturbing, in our opinion, was the reaction of Lions COO Tom Lewand to the notion that the profane attitude correlates to the attitude of the entire organization.

“If you write that, it will be factually incorrect and bordering on slander,” Lewand told Pat Caputo of the Oakland Press. ”And I will come after you.”

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Lewand, we believe, has been far more responsible for the mess that is the Detroit Lions than anyone has realized. And we think there’s definitely a correlation between Lewand’s empty threat and the empty suit that he wears to work every day.

Lions CEO Matt Millen has, to his credit, not blamed others in the organization for the failures of the team. As legend has it, decisions like the hiring of coach Marty Morningsomething, the hiring of coach Steve Mariucci, and the drafting of quarterback Joey Harrington weren’t Millen’s.

But Millen has never pointed a finger, publicly or privately, at those who made those calls.

As to Lewand, Millen also has been diplomatic. But based on everything we’ve seen and heard, Lewand is just another one of those non-football business guys who find a way to claim credit when things are going well, and who have no accountability when things are going poorly.

The fact that one of the employees who ultimately report to Lewand would express such sour thoughts about a paying customer, and then be sufficiently stupid to send the e-mail to the customer in question, suggests that the incident should result accountability other than the type that arises when a team loses a lot more games than it wins.

In this context, it’s a matter of what’s proper and what isn’t, and the “f–k ‘em” buck should ultimately stop on Lewand’s desk.





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Old 05-18-2008, 08:30 PM
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I don't really care who is at fault and who the scapegoat is, as long as they stay the Lions, I am happy.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:14 AM
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Does e-mail show how Lions really feel about their fans?




By PAT CAPUTO
Of The Oakland Press


When Kevin Furlong received an e-mail from an employee of the Detroit Lions ticket office, he did a double take.

F--- 'em until next year," it said.
It was an inadvertent transmission, meant to be sent from one Lions employee, Matt Schul, to another, Lance Powser, about Furlong's ordeal with the Lions ticket office. Furlong felt compelled to cancel six season tickets worth more than $5,000 for the 2008 season. The Lions were trying to convince him to renew.
"It was extremely disappointing," Furlong said of his reaction to the e-mail.
Cast aside the graphic language and examine only the meaning, and I find these words to be telling. In my opinion, they sum up the organization's attitude in its totality.
The Lions take their support for granted.
It's why owner William Clay Ford crassly, the rare times he speaks to the media these days, praises team president Matt Millen -- who has compiled a 31-81 record since being handed the keys to the franchise in 2001.
It's why Millen smugly passes off Lion fans as if they are a necessary evil, as he lives in what is essentially a football executive's fantasyland. He is the primary decisionmaker when it comes to the Lions' player personnel -- without culpability for a mountain of failings.
To believe there isn't a trickle-down effect from the top to throughout the remainder of the organization would be naive.
And I can't help but believe Furlong, a 49-year-old resident of Livonia, who works as a CPA in West Bloomfield, didn't feel the brunt of the Lions' attitude.
Lions executive vice president and chief operating officer Tom Lewand vehemently disagreed with my contention there is a correlation between the tone set by Ford and Millen -- and this incident.
"If you write that, it will be factually incorrect and bordering on slander," Lewand said. "And I will come after you."
Do I feel threatened by Lewand? No. Am I angry he said those things. No. They were said out of loyalty and emotion -- and I understand and respect that.
But it doesn't change my opinion. And I don't believe I'm exactly a club of one in this town when it comes to believing Lions leadership is inept and insensitive.
Furlong owned season tickets for three years. He had two in the club level the first year. The second year, he received two more in the lower level stands after being on a waiting list -- so he had four. The third season, they reduced the size of the club level, including a portion where his seats were located, which were on the aisle.
He said he wanted to keep those two seats, add two club-level seats and asked that two seats he had in the stands be combined with his seats from the club level that were moved to the stands. The Lions agreed. It gave him six season tickets.
But when he went to sit in his old seats, somebody else was sitting in them. He asked them to leave, but when he looked at his tickets, he noticed his seats had been moved.
"It was an embarrassing and awkward moment," Furlong said. "I was stunned."
When he contacted the Lions, he was told nothing could be done about it during the 2007 season, but he was promised aisle seats for 2008.
Yet, when Furlong received his season ticket invoice for 2008, it was for the same seats he had in 2007.
It was then that Furlong canceled his season tickets in an e-mail to Schul. Powser then e-mailed Furlong with an offer for more desirable seats, but Furlong said it was a matter of principle -- and he wouldn't accept the offer.
Then Furlong received the inadvertent e-mail from Schul.
The entire e-mail reads, "Lance...he is not talking about you here. Mark was asked to speak to these people and he said no. F... 'em until next year."
"Mark" is Lions ticket director Mark Graham.
Once he heard of the e-mail, Lewand called Furlong and invited him to a game.
"I did so before I heard from any media on this," he said.
Lewand offered no excuses for the incident, but absolved Graham from blame, although the e-mail in question indicates Graham refused to discuss the issue with season ticketholders such as Furlong, who had their seats unexpectedly moved for the 2007 season.
"It was an inaccurate characterization of a conversation held in 2007, not this year,'' Lewand said of Schul's e-mail.
Lewand said he was, "deeply disappointed with the e-mail and light it portrayed, and I have addressed it."
"There are a number of different levels this could have been avoided and we realize that," Lewand said. "One, with the invoice we sent out for this year. If it had been correct, none of this would have happened. We never condone our fans being discussed in that manner, whether it be in an e-mail or any type of discussion among members of our organization."
Furlong is not pleased with the Lions organization, but feels no animosity toward Schul. He was hesitant to make the e-mail public for fear Schul would be the fall guy for the incident.
"Matt was the one person who was trying to help us, and I feel for him, but it didn't sound like anybody else there cared," Furlong said.
His anger hit a head when the Lions started offering partial season ticket packages this week.
"When they came out with the partial ticket packages, I just couldn't take it anymore," Furlong said. "Evidently, the way they are treating fans isn't working out to well for them."
Leward said the Lions do appreciate their fans. "We care deeply about our fans and their support," he said. "That's not to make any excuses about this. I'm as upset as Kevin is about this, but it doesn't reflect the overwhelming way we treat our ticket holders or our fans."
There are two ways to look at that. One is a matter of customer satisfaction. Kevin Furlong was not a satisfied customer, but it seems to me the issue is deeper than that.
"F... 'em until next year." Where did that attitude come from?
We can only hope it isn't the unofficial team slogan. Pat Caputo is a senior sports reporter and a columnist for The Oakland Press. Contact him at pat.caputo@oakpress.com and read his sports blog and listen to his sports podcast at Blog Central at oaklandpress.com.
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Does millen still have a job with the lions?
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Apparently. That's some customer service, right there.....
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